Tuesday, August 28, 2007
Welcome back Andy Tarsy. Abe Foxman has re-hired New England Regional Director Andrew Tarsy after first firing him for breaking with the home office and acknowledging that the massacre of Armenians by the Ottomans was indeed a "genocide." ADL reinstates regional leader
The move to rehire Andrew H. Tarsy as regional director marked the second time in a week that the human rights organization reversed course under pressure from the Jewish and Armenian-American communities.
But Abraham H. Foxman, the ADL's national director, said he did not rehire Tarsy to appease critics. What mattered, Foxman said, was that the two men now "see eye to eye."
Tarsy's reinstatement was effective immediately, and both men said they were happy to be moving forward together.
"Andy's back," Foxman said, sitting next to Tarsy yesterday in a waterfront office in Boston. "Andy and I talked, and, after our conversation, I decided to take him back, to reinstate him. And I'm delighted he's back."...
Foxman didn't have much choice. He was being hammered for what he did from all directions, and rightfully so.
This post from Mick Hartley can help put a little (ironic) perspective on this strange affair of Turks, Jews and Christians:
http://mickhartley.typepad.com/blog/2007/08/the-zionist-bac.html
I would like your bloggers to know that there are many Turkish victims of Armenian mass killings, tortures, destruction of crops and livestock, and properties.
What concerns me most is the killing of my family members. My family come from Kars, Turkiye. An eastern Anatolian Turkish city. The city has paleolithic carvings, a great museum and a multi-ethnic history(http://www.kars.gov.tr/home.html)
Our DNA shows we have been in this region fo 10 to 12,000 years(Catalhoyuk remans then migration to Caucasia). We follow a very ancient Turkish culture and we believe to be decendents most recently of Huns(Karssaks, Bulgars) who settled in the region 2,000 + years ago. My family had been forced to leave Kars 1870s then 1910s. First by Russians with Armenian troop divisions, then by the Armenian Revolutionary forces(hinchak, dashnak, etc.).
Our most earliest recollection is the parentless twins that were separated at age 4(blue-eyed, blonde- found 40years later), decapitation of a great uncle, aged 17, at the hands of his best Armenian friend, ordered by the Armenian forces. My great-great-grandfather had jumped out of hiding in the closet to avenge the horror, he was hacked to pieces.
Another great-uncle lived amongst several hundred burned bodies of Turks rounded up by the Armenian Guards and tricked that they would be having a big discussion at the mosque. When all the villagers were in the mosque, the doors/windows were sealed and the place was set on fire with diesel(Subatan Kars-. Our great-uncle aged 7 had resisted the scent of charred dead remains and several chants of old Armenian old women that spoke fluent Turkish, pretending to be Turkish villagers to find out if any living were left after the fire. He lived for some say over a week. Only survivor.
Other villages around the region were burned to the ground, crops burned, wells filled with killed villagers.
Kars never had a chance to retaliate for the suffering. Turkish troops came too late. The Armenians had all left to Yerevan and Georgia. Our people had tried Georgia, then settled in Azerbaijan and returned after the Armenians had left.
Now, my question is, why don't the Armenians or people proposed to decide their depiction of the events know all of this? Officially, 530,000 Turks died directly because Armenian killings, but note, the Turks in the Caucasus had been massacred in the millions at the hands of the Bolshevists, then the Red Army under Stalin. Prof. Justin McCarthy estimates that prior to 1880 census records, 85% of Caucasia was Turkish. Modern Armenia had a majority Turkish population and thousands of mosques. How many Turks remain in Armenia? How many mosques? Armenians will proudly say none.
Regards,
Tamer
I really feel sorry for Tamer, he believes the junk fed to him by our own government and the nationalists who make up the historians.
What he is repeating is the complete junk history and science advanced by our government's "history watchdog" Yusuf Halacoglu. This guy is a profound racist and says that the Armenians all just became Turks.
All of this has been debunked by serious historians.
I would also point out that Turkish geneticists have determined that the Turkic genetic component is less than 5% in the Kars region. There is no hunnic (Bulgarian(!) or otherwise) in the region.
Even the mention of the Catalhoyuk finds is chilling in the repetition of nationalist bunk. In fact in the serious major peer reviewed archeology journals these finds are associated with proto-Armenians and Hittites (100% Indo European like the Armenains) though a clear association with the mother goddess/lion cult deeply associated with proto-Armenian culture in the region.
I just bring this up because the Armenian genocide is about one thing and one thing only: The perversion of our Turkish history by our home grown nationalists who have created mass fear in our academia in Turkey through intimidation, persecution, prosecution and even killings of academics and writers for even mentioning the genocide against the Armenians. No one is being friendly to Turkey or the Turkish People by abetting the denial.
By the way what McCarthy writes is not that "85 of Caucasia was Turkish" but that 85% of the small Ottoman area of Caucasia was Turkic. Notably he also attributes this to Ottoman programs of setting Turkish people there and removing Armenian populations toward interior Anatolia.
The 530,000 McCarthy uses includes 420,000 Ottoman Troops, which who were killed fighting against the Allies.
This entire denial of the Armenian genocide is nothing more than a sickness in Turkey and one that will go away eventually -- the sooner the better
Metin A, Samsun, Turkiye, studying in the US