Tuesday, October 16, 2007
CAIR Defends Hard-Core Jew Haters' Conference (Update: CAIR says they only provided legal referral.)The news is in! Remember that super-secret conference of Jew-hating weirdos? See: Shhh...Don't Tell...Super Secret Conference Being Held in OC, California Next Weekend! Well, it seems they had cause to worry. 'Cause when the nut-balls showed up at the Irvine Marriott, they found out that the organizer owed an additional $20,000 in fees. Whaddaya know? Doh! David Duke must have been so disappointed! (Not that he was planning to attend.)
And no matter how many other area hotels they tried, why, there just wasn't any space for 'em. Shame, really...
Kicked to the curb...literally.
Don't worry overmuch, cause they ended up having a nice protest out on the sidewalk, then holding their powwow anyway at the local Greek Orthodox Church (note Boston connections). [Just so you know, this post contains links to a number of hard-core hate sites. Sometimes you've just got to pick up that rock and have a look at what's crawling around under there.]
One of the "Jews are naaasty" crowd, Eileen Fleming, writes about what happened:
I arrived at the Irvine Marriott last Friday evening because I was scheduled to speak the next day at "The No More Wars for Israel Conference" which had been dedicated to Mordecahi Vanunu.
I learned then that the event had been canceled.
Mark Glenn, one of the Coordinators, informed me that three days prior, the Marriott requested payment of $20,000.00, although there was no such requirement in the contract.
Mark told me he was able to secure $8,000 within twenty-four hours and even after a visit from a representative from CAIR, Council of American-Islamic Relations [http://www.cair.com/] informed the Marriott's Events Coordinator that twenty speakers from around the Nation were on their way; the event would not happen at the Marriott as planned...
Yes, that's right, the Council for American Islamic Relations stepped in and tried to bail them out.
You can listen to all the live drama on the Mike Rivero, "What Really Happened".com radio show. You can also listen to the brain-trust on the "air" with Hesham Tillawi, reporting from the curb. Tillawi is a Palestinian-American and proud member of the National Arab American Journalists Association whose show has featured a cavalcade of interesting guests. (Like Harvard scholar and Hamas apologist Sara Roy.)
Local star and attendee Joachim Martillo, has been kind enough to post the slides from his PowerPoint presentation. I like #25, "The organized Jewish community must be broken permanently!" and #15, "The Truth about Jews."
Rivero has an entire gallery of photos, here.
My sympathy to the Marriott for their trouble. Better luck next time, CAIR.
[Tip 'o the hat to Adam Holland for some of the links.]
Update: Affad Shaikh, CAIR Civil Rights Coordinator, clarifies CAIR's role in the comments to Eileen Fleming's posting:
I am writing this message to clarify a minor error in what is being reported about CAIR's involvement with this matter. CAIR was contacted by a speaker regarding the cancellation of this event in Irvine. In fact, I was the person who had taken the call. After listening to and understanding that the issue was contractual, I provided the name of an attorney whom they can consult for the matter. The speaker had actually already had two contacts- Sami Mashney and M*a*r*ian B*i*s*hay [Edit 4-29-09: Per request, I have obscured this attorney's name as they claim to have had nothing to do with this matter. -MS] - both attorneys that had been referred to her by other people. CAIR representatives did not speak to any Marriott representatives, meet with them nor discussed this matter with anyone besides the speaker who had contacted and spoken with me. I am not familiar or aware of the existence or lack of existence of prejudicial reasons for the Marriott to act in such a manner. I am also not familiar with the conference nor the details of the speakers or topics since very little was told to me about the event by the caller...
That's what you get when you believe Eileen Fleming's version of the "facts."
Update 2: Thanks to Charles for the link, and welcome lizards. To answer a couple of questions from the comments: The guys in the hats are Jews from the Neturei Karta sect. They're "anti-Zionist" Jews who basically hate any Jews who disagree with them and will truck with anyone -- anyone -- who opposes Zionism. Their representatives have traveled to Iran to kiss Ahmadinejad at his Holocaust Denial Conference, been on Arafat's payroll as minister of Jewish affairs, and every anti-Semite on the planet gets their picture taken next to them to prove they don't really hate Jews -- as though the fact that Hitler was willing to work with Jewish Kapos proved he didn't either. The Greek Orthodox Church connection is the result of the unfortunate fact that that church has a strong strand of anti-Semitism within it still. In the photo gallery, you'll also see pictures of a "traditionalist" Catholic Priest (Mel Gibson's peeps) in attendance -- neither group is down with the whole nostra aetate thing.
In case anyone had any doubts that these people really mean "Jews" when they say "Zionists" or "Israel", check out this from piece WRITTEN BY THE ORGANIZER OF THIS CONFERENCE, Mark Glenn, where he makes it very clear that he means Jews:
Judaism is Nobody’s Friend
"Let’s face it--the only reason we are allowed (not to mention willing) to talk about it these days is because it begins with the letter ‘z’ and not the letter ‘j’. That is the single barrier demarcating the two items--a simple issue of letters and pronunciation, despite the fact that they are basically the same animal. Stay within that safe ‘z’ zone and all will be relatively fine. You will be championed as a friend of humanity and a warrior for the truth. Venture into that other area though and bring up that dreaded ‘j’ word and suddenly the same ‘open-minded’ people who a moment before were erecting a monument in your honor start to loosen their collars and clear their throats uncomfortably...
"Wake up and smell the Knishes, my friends, Judaism has been at war with us for over 2,000 years, ever since this man named Jesus of Nazareth came and blew the lid open on what Judaism‘s real agenda was. Judaism is a declaration of war and manifested by thousands upon thousands of acts of intentional malice directed by Rabbinical generals against the rest within the non-Jewish world in matters involving money, business, politics, and culture. For those of us in the Christian world who seem to have forgotten, it would be wise to remember that it was our forefathers who were being hunted down, imprisoned, tortured and killed for the crime of abandoning the ‘wise council’ of the tribal leaders known as the Pharisees and for daring to follow that ‘other guy’ who preached a message of complete contradiction to Judaism, and it is a situation that has not changed a bit since that time.
"Besides, if wanting to avoid a war is the reason for side-stepping this uncomfortable discussion then we are ‘big-time’ wasting our time. Armageddon is not only a done deal, it is well on its way to being an heirloom that will be passed down generation after generation after generation. Our kids and grandkids will be dealing with it in a way that we cannot even begin to imagine. Because of the fact that we have spent so much time wet-nursing the egos of one small minority of people who are said to have had a rough time during WWII we have allowed WWIII to be born. Because of our fear of the Jews we will be sacrificing our life’s blood and that of our children for generations to come."
READ THE REST (IF YOU HAVE THE STOMACH) AT http://crescentandcross.blogspot.com/2006/11/judaism-is-nobodys-friend.html
ubiquitous kapos, lol
GOod job thank you for it
1) Even if involving CAIR in this is unfair (and they don't seem particularly bothered by it), it's worth noting who these crazies do and don't have on speed-dial. You don't see them calling, say, Ann Coulter.
2) Are you familiar with this nut? I saw that headline at Haaretz this morning and figured it absolutely had to be our friend and neighbor -- who'd have thought there's another one out there?
Clarification: The NUTturei Karta are NOT JEWS! Please stop associating these PSYCHOTIC FREAKS with Jews.
Even if the Greek Orthodox church has an anti-Semitic strain, why would they associate with Islamists? Muslims did a real number on Greece and the Balkans in general, slaughtering tens of thousands and forcibly converting hundreds of thousands. They didn't get rid of their Muslim invaders until what, the 19th C? And as I recall to this day there is still violence and tension between Greeks and Muslims on some of the Mediterranean islands.
Great post. Thanks for the information.
JSinger, I can't find the videos on YouTube, but it doesn't sound like our "friend"'s style exactly. WHo knows, though.
I wrote a message to the pastor of the Greek Orthodox Church involved in this debacle, and here is his (lame) reply:
Thank you for your e-mail!
Unfortunately, our facilities were used as a result of misrepresentation and a false understanding on our part as to what would be taking place.
Actually, what happened was this: our parish office administrator, Marina Kookootsedes, received a phone call on Saturday morning - on our emergency line - requesting the use of our parish hall by a Mr. Peter Papaikaklis for what both he and his secretary described as an "insurance conference" that was supposed to take place later that day at the Irvine Marriott. Mr. Papaikaklis, who claimed to be visiting from Washington, D.C., informed Mrs. Kookootsedes that the Irvine Marriott had mistakenly rented their meeting room to someone else and requested the use of our facilities. At no time did Mr. Papaikaklis indicate the true nature of the conference that he said he was hosting.
I had no idea that any arrangements for renting the parish hall had been made that morning, nor would I have suspected anything if I had known, as Mrs. Kookootsedes believed we were hosting a day-long conference of insurance salesmen.
We have learned to be far more careful in discerning who it is that is asking to use our facilities.
God keep you!
Father Steven Tsichlis
I wrote a message to the pastor of the Greek Orthodox Church involved in this debacle, and here is his (lame) reply:
If that explanation is true, and it seems completely plausible, I don't see anything to criticize them for.
...it doesn't sound like our "friend"'s style exactly.
No, I wasn't suggesting that it's the same person (for one thing, "Stiven Malik" seems to actually speak Hebrew). Just that when I read the first words about some nut ranting about "Ashkenazim", I'd figured it just had to be...
Great post, Mr. Solomon, and insofar as the comments are concerned, Adam Holland, you ROCK!
BHG
Time to add to the dossiers. Father Christopher Hunter (in the photos) is a priest in the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX), which is the club for priests who long for the good old days of bashing Jews.
Some quick googling:
http://www.vaticaninexile.com/Traditionalists/Lefebvre/FirstAmericans.html
Christopher Hunter Entered in 1977 and was ordained in 1983
http://sspx.agenda.tripod.com/id9.html
http://traditionaljoe.blogspot.com/
And these are the locations where he serves the mass.
Was SHITler a "traditional Catholic"?
No
Shitler was 100% an occultist
He simply appropriated many of the perverted aspects of Christianity that he saw fit to appropriate to make himself seem palatable to the German people
Luther and Blavatsky were major influences of his...among others
Hitler was not a "Christian"
Hitler thought HE was the messiah.
But...Vas Hitler Schwul?
;~}
http://babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com/2007/04/pink-swastika.html
the powerpoint slides were frightening
it is very scary knowing that there are such virulent antisemites here in boston