Judging from the uniforms and weaponry (US-made M-16s), those are Israeli soldiers shown on the poster -- apparently it is a message of warning should the IDF launch a full-scale invasion of Gaza.

#1 Jeff Klein

Judging from the uniforms and weaponry (US-made M-16s), those are Israeli soldiers shown on the poster -- apparently it is a message of warning should the IDF launch a full-scale invasion of Gaza.

Incredible, the way the dipstick asswipes see things.

O Jeff, my brother: Based on your comments elsewhere on the site and now that gem, I suggest you find a good surgeon for that craniorectal extraction you so badly need. Either that, or get them to put a little window in your gut so you don't keep bumping into things.

In the above picture "paldf.net" is listed on the right below an arabic inscription.

I looked up "paldf.net" with whois and see that it is part of

palestinianforum.org

If death is coming, it's heading for the Islamofascist entity.

"Judging from the uniforms and weaponry (US-made M-16s), those are Israeli soldiers shown on the poster -- apparently it is a message of warning should the IDF launch a full-scale invasion of Gaza."

Actually, these are not Israeli soldiers. IDF don't wear this kind of camouflage uniform. But Hamas' terrorists - do. (As do Hizzbulla).

http://www.fresh.co.il/dcforum/Army/22.html

The M-16 is Hamas's weapon of choice, apart from the suicide belt and the Qassam.

Indeed. Not that it matters, but the figures in front appear to be holding an M4 and an AK-47 variant with folding shoulder-stock respectively.

I've never seen any other armed forces wear those wide floppy helmet covers that seem to be standard in Israeli combat gear. Propaganda anyway: warning to the attacking Israeli soldiers, I should think. That's why the text is in Hebrew and English, not Arabic. Maybe the images are just photo-shopped.

Actually there's Arabic too (he middle line) but clearly not what is emphasized.

"I've never seen any other armed forces wear those wide floppy helmet covers that seem to be standard in Israeli combat gear."

I assume you mean you have seen those in pictures on the Internet. I assume you are something of a connaisseur in these matters. Can you then provide some recorded example of exactly this kind of helmet and colours on identifiably IDF soldiers?

I've seen such combat gear during several of my visits to Israel. They were also very evident in photos of Israeli soldiers during the last Lebanon war, widely reproduced in the media.

Like this: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://mad.walla.co.il/archive/238618-5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://israelipost.blogspot.com/&h=509&w=400&sz=57&hl=en&start=61&sig2=uFVoBNej_isgeBa-hBpCXQ&tbnid=X6VocJBZaIXOCM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=103&ei=24HHR-WxFJ_Oecq44AU&prev=/images%3Fq%3Disraeli%2Bsoldiers%2Blebanon%2Bwar%2B2006%26start%3D60%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1B3RNFA_enUS233US240%26sa%3DN

or this:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://english.people.com.cn/200607/21/images/xinsrc_17207032110342652643035.jpg&imgrefurl=http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200607/21/archive.html&h=270&w=400&sz=59&hl=en&start=72&sig2=XUjg5Frh4w973xt0Fi1X2w&tbnid=gEcfVg4izmheWM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=124&ei=JoLHR-fMBqX4effV8Qk&prev=/images%3Fq%3Disraeli%2Bsoldiers%2Blebanon%2Bwar%2B2006%26start%3D60%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1B3RNFA_enUS233US240%26sa%3DN

or this:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.williambowles.info/gispecial/2006/0806/200806/image007-01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.williambowles.info/gispecial/2006/0806/200806/gi_4h20_200806.html&h=286&w=405&sz=13&hl=en&start=115&sig2=hGw30Xnx-EMHAHcXNQ7EWQ&tbnid=qN-13jcIUtJ52M:&tbnh=88&tbnw=124&ei=XYLHR4eaLoe0evikhCI&prev=/images%3Fq%3Disraeli%2Bsoldiers%2Blebanon%2Bwar%2B2006%26start%3D100%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1B3RNFA_enUS233US240%26sa%3DN

Similar hat, different camouflage pattern. Any pictures of the same pattern?

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080217/481/ttw10102171348/

if you look at the video here

precisely on minute 3:05..... you will see an Israely solder wearing the same hat in the picture above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzwcfxq46GI

p.s the video and the pictures in it are new.

Arabian: I suppose the "massacre" was just an arbitrary and brutal Israeli whim. They killed those babies because that's what Israelis do, they kill Palestinian babies. On that particular day, for no reason at all, IDF decided to open fire on Palestinian babies and kill them. Right?

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C4423B00-AAF8-4649-B38F-D977BE8923F2.htm

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959558.html

Jeff Klein: so they wear similar helmet covers. What about the camoflage unifrom, which is not worn by IDF? Are you still maintaining that the "soldiers" in the picture are Israeli? Do you think Hamas don't know what IDF wear?

#12 Noga

Arabian: I suppose the "massacre" was just an arbitrary and brutal Israeli whim. They killed those babies because that's what Israelis do, they kill Palestinian babies. On that particular day, for no reason at all, IDF decided to open fire on Palestinian babies and kill them. Right?

Time to sit back and wait for delusional nut-job Jeff Klein to tell us Shalhavet Pass was an inside job by the Mosad to falsely slander the peaceful Arabs who just want to tend their olive trees and dance the dabka.

Maybe Arabiandumbass19 will tell us that Shalhevet Pass didn't die, there were no Arab snipers and that the whole incident was staged by the Israeliwood propaganda machine to inflame world opinion against the noble, long-suffering Palis who, having to deal with the tragedy of real dead kids like the martyr Mohammed al-Dura, are way too honorable to stoop to such sordid lies.

Why do we even bother responding to provocations from troofers like Jeff Klein or liars and propagandists like Arabianasshole19. What a waste of time.

#13 Nappy-headed Ho'

Maybe Arabian19 will tell us that Shalhevet Pass didn't die, there were no Arab snipers and that the whole incident was staged by the Israeliwood propaganda machine to inflame world opinion against the noble, long-suffering Palis who, having to deal with the tragedy of real dead kids like the martyr Mohammed al-Dura, are way too honorable to stoop to such sordid lies.

both of them are kids....
I am not like condaleeza rice when she ran crying to her zionest masters in Israel to offer her condolences on one college student that died.... because she may have a lab and discovered that israelien blood equels one thousand Palestinian.

and I dont need to take about Israelian propoganda.... because if i talk I will be accused of beieng antisemetic....so Id rather shut up because I dont whant to llose my job and get known world wide for being antisemitc...which is like being a heretic in the middle ages !

#12 Noga
Arabian: I suppose the "massacre" was just an arbitrary and brutal Israeli whim. They killed those babies because that's what Israelis do, they kill Palestinian babies. On that particular day, for no reason at all, IDF decided to open fire on Palestinian babies and kill them. Right?

part of what you said is righ and part is not

what is right is killing babies and also..
actually there is a strategy of terrorism.
which includes killing, demolishing houses, cutting electricity, not allowing money too go in...ext

.. the main reason for this aggression is because hamas was elected "democraticaly"
and ofcourse there is a bunch of other reasons that arise daily...but the main is hamas being elected.
They want gazans to remember what happened when they elected hamas in the next elections.so that they never elect hamas again

...Nappy, like you said in comment #13. Why bother?

hamas was "elected" and HIJACKED gaza from abu mazen.

Is hijacking gaza the act of a democracy? No. It's the nature of Islamofascism to impose its theocratic dictatorship.

Islamofascists hijack airplanes, cruise ships, countries like Lebanon.

hamastan can have peace if they act peacefully.

hamastan will have War if they continue to act Islamofascistly.

hamastan breached the Egyptian/hamastan barrier flowed into egypt and RETURNED to hamastan. Why?

Where did hamastanians get the money to buy motorcycles? Anyhow an Israeli Hellfire missle is faster than a motorcycle.

I hope that the few good people living in Gaza left, before Israel smashes hamastan.

There's an all too obvious and pitiably convenient short-sighted quality to arabian's and Klein's protestations. Firstly, what goes unexamined - what is elided and occluded - is momentous. The entire history of the Arab world's mistreatment of (Sunni) Arab Palestinians is always and forever unremarked upon. Such tragic and critical historical events as Jordan's Black September or Egypt's equally harsh treatment of such Arab populations is virtually never subjected to criticism. Similarly unremarked upon is, after Black September, the social/political dissolution in Lebanon, a result of Arab (and, via Hezbollah, Persian) initiatives. Likewise still, the egregiously purposeful targeting of Israeli civilians by Palestinian clans and factions. Etc., etc., etc. - all of it unremarked upon. Hence the selective concern "for" those Arab Muslim "Palestinians" wherein Israel, and Israel alone (or with the U.S. perhaps) is subjected to overly wrought criticisms.

Then too, the fact that Israel's population, approximately 22% of it, is Arab, together with political participation, full rights of citizenship, etc. Hence Israel, while by no means perfect in any type of utopian sense, is the only true democracy in the M.E., is the only country with balance of powers fully institutionalized (judicial, executiave, legislative balances), is the only country with anti-racism laws on the books, etc., etc., etc.

Further still, the extensive heritage of Palestinian totalitarian and authoritarian political hegemony is notable as well, such that summary executions and similar corporeal punishments have been met out, at least since the rise of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al Husseini, c. 1920.

So much that is so pivotal and so momentous is simply filed away by the arabians and Kleins of the world into the memory hole. Then, when it's noted, the cry and whine and moan about being labeled anti-semites or some other putatively unfair treatment.

Pathetic. And it's pathetic on intellectual, moral, social/political and every other imaginable level.