Monday, March 24, 2008
Sorry to see that the fellow who runs (now ran) the excellent Anti-Racist Blog has shut down the blog and removed the archives following what I take to be some pretty serious threats and harassment:
...As with all attempts to confront hatred and racism, there are those people and groups who will push back, and lash out. Anti-Racist Blog was aware of this, but underestimated the venom and hostility that it would be confronted with. It is a given that Middle East studies, and the discussion surrounding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict in particular can get very heated, and there are lots of emotions involved, but often times the reaction has been beyond the pale...
...After experiencing numerous threatening e-mails, phone calls, and messages, threats of legal action, headaches, and harassment, Anti-Racist Blog has decided enough is enough. The burden and risks have become too great, and what used to be so important doesn't seem worth it anymore...
A big salute to ARB. Everyone should be disturbed by this development.
Thank you for the kind words. Luckily there are still blogs like yours around to continue the fight for Jews, Israel, and America.
It seems the natural fate for one that doesn't have a righteous cause to fight for!!
arabian, are you familiar with the expression "fuck off?" Just part of your continuing English-language immersion program (immersion, there's another word to look up for you).
Arabian does not realize how his pleased comment about ARB's being silenced reflects more than anything his own perverse view of right and wrong. Fighting racist and antisemitic defamation is not righteous only in certain xenophobic, gynephobic political systems, such as Nazi Germany 60 years ago, or Saudi Arabia today.
How come the police are not involved/effective?
Anti-Racist Blog, I hope you informed the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security of the threats you received.
You safety naturally comes first, but I hope you notified the authorities. Who ever threatens you will threaten others.
Thanks to the Internet Wayback Machine, some of the old posts from Anti-Racist Blog are still accessible.
Fir example...
http://web.archive.org/web/20070824223746/antiracistblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/boycott-israeli-universities-boycott.html
I'd like to add a few words for "Arabian": sir or madam, please get some education.
Bigotry against any group of people threatens us all.
Please study the history of the Jewish people and tell me why defending this tiny minority isn't a "righteous cause".
I can't think of anything MORE righteous.
Meanwhile, as far as the rest of us are concerned - a bad sign indeed.
Arabian - can you give us an example of something that, (in your opinion) is a righteous cause to fight for?
I suspect that Arabian is a product of his country's ethos. For him, the Holocaust is either a myth or a Zionist conspiracy, Jews are the offspring of apes and pigs etc. I don't think there is a single person in the kingdom allowed to get away with saying something positive about Jews, let alone Israel. In a discussion once here about the meaning of the golden rule, I asked Arabian what was the core ETHIC of Islam, aside from the religious dogma and practice. He could not tell me.
“So if I understand you correctly, in Islam, the worship of God is at the heart of the religion. But what does it mean, to worship God? How do you worship Him? Aside from the prayers, fasts etc, which are just external mainfestations of a faith. How are the believers required to act, to behave, to teach themselves and their children, in order to please God?”
“Noga , I am afraid your question is not an easy one, so I advise you to search that.because if firstly i dont whant to change the path of the post first more than it has and because its better for you to do that.”
http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archive/2008/01/jihad-is-everything-the-golden-rule-is-n/
I suspect that Arabian is a product of his country's ethos
Thanks, Noga. I've researched a little about Saudi Arabia. Next to oil, their main export is hate, spread worldwide through 'charities' like Al Haramain
As we saw in Rwanda and in the Sudan, hate is the ultimate WMD. It's killed more people than all the nukes in the world put together. That's their ethos.
And our government considers them to be "allies", partly because of oil, but partly because we're so afraid of - WMDs.
Noga first of all I swear to God I am not from Saudia arabia.
second of all I am not interested in spreading the faith of islam and explain everybit of it....this place as i bleive people talk securely here.
and regarding you there was a post you made about the jew tribes that the prophet fought in madina...its history(junk).
rather than reading translations about islam...contrary to you i ve learnt english to read things about other religoens not (translations) that are usually picky.
by the way if I will use your method of picking what i want then can you explain for me this first
The Book of Joshua 8:1-29 and the consept of killing every thing breathing.
mary,
what ever saudia arabia does nobody will recognize it except the wise people...and certinaly you and others that are full of hate toward anything saudi wont respect it.
saudia fights terrorism entirnally and the world acuuses it of giving birth to terrorists.
what do you whant from saudia?
the king visited the vatican lately to try to get thing work better between religoens(which is a historic vist,and yesterdy he announced that he will make confrences between the three main religons to make the world more peacfull.)
and he will finance a counter terrorist center.
but hate always blinds the eyes of people.
and concerning oil..... america is among the least countries that buy oil from the middle east, and also oil is cheaper than water ( cup of water is more expencive than a cup of oil) but imeprailis are used to occuping and getting everything for free, more over the oil you get in the states is compromised of 150% to 200% taxes thats way its expensive .
first of all i have many spelling mistakes in my previous post.
but its easy to understand.
And our government considers them to be "allies", partly because of oil, but partly because we're so afraid of - WMDs.
america is not afraid from saudia, some miniorities in the states "make" america believe that saudia is a threat. with all the media and internet blogs and campaigns in colleges.
You will notice that Arabian did not answer our main question to him: What is unrighteous about fighting racism and antisemitism. Instead he plied us with irrelevancies.
saudia fights terrorism entirnally and the world acuuses it of giving birth to terrorists.
Saudi Arabia is entirely responsible for the 9/11 attacks. The attacks were funded, inspired and carried out by Saudis. They were funded, in part, from donations from Prince Bandar, the Saudi Ambassador to the US who later used the threat of al Qaeda attacks to extort concessions from Tony Blair. Through charities like Al Al Haramain and CAIR, Saudis support groups like Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda, Jemaah Islamiyah, the Taliban, etc. The London times calls Saudi Arabia the Hub of terrorism worldwide.
what do you whant from saudia?
Terrorism is a form of warfare. The people who have been attacked by Saudi terrorism would like to wage a reasonable war against their enemy. But unfortunately it's true that "america is not afraid from saudia". Our government believes that it can use Saudi oil and saudi support of terrorism as a weapon against our old cold war 'enemies', like Russia and China, so it protects this terrorist regime. Terrorism is a nasty weapon, but most people prefer that to the threat of nuclear warfare. If we have to play stupid diplomatic/wargames, most people would rather not risk Mutually Assured Destruction. But most people ignore the fact that terrorists are more likely to use WMDs (if they get their hands on them) than any state leader, no matter how loony. They also ignore the massive casualties that can result from the kind of hate that Saudi Arabia and their extremist 'brothers' export.
As long as Saudi Arabia is useful to people like James Baker and Zbigniew Brzezinksi, America will continue to legitimize and support this troglodyte regime. But, at some point, Saudis will no longer be useful to them.
Fortunatily there are wise people that dont think Saudia arabia is the terrorism hub.
If you define 'wise people' as those who can't read, or those who live in caves, that could be true.
With respect guys, in the interests of building communication between people - I think Arabian should get a chance just to talk to us as a person to other people.
Regardless of the behavior of the Saudi government, or groups within Saudi Arabia, or anywhere else for that matter, the best chance we all have to build a better world - and not so coincidentally deal with issues that threaten us all - is for each of us to try and reach out to people from the other side of the world.
That includes people from Saudi Arabia.
For myself, I am impressed when a person learns English and tries to communicate with us. I can't read or write Arabic, so it's fortunate that Arabian can write English:)
As far as the writing in the Old Testament, Arabian, that isn't taken literally - it was written thousands of years ago. And, the old stories pertain to battles and threats at the time - not to how people see, think or feel today - and not to the core of Jewish religious belief either - that is encapsulated in the Ten Commandments and in other aspects of Torah.
The core of Judaism can be summed up simply, as it was by Rabbi Hillel almost two thousand years ago: “Do not do to others what you would not have them do to you.” He went on to say (about the Old Testament), "The rest is commentary."
Also important to Jews: the concept of "tikkun olam," which means "mend the world". It's a philosophy of trying to make a positive contribution to the world around us.
I hope this helps - maybe if we keep talking we can understand each other a little better.
It must really eat at "arab19" that every day when he wakes he realizes the "nakbah" that 1.5 Billion Muslims are LESS powerful than 12 Million Jews.
Apparently "Allah" wills it.
Thanks, Sophia, for explaining the concept of "tikkun olam,". However, 'arabian' has said that he's not from Saudi Arabia.
It is important to build communication between people, but that communication should be an honest exchange of information between adults. If a political group is reaching out through diplomacy and through genuine requests for dialogue, that's one thing. But if a political group sponsors violent attacks against unarmed civilians and initiates acts of war, they should be treated (and respected) as enemies.
But under the rules of modern warfare, we don't respect our enemies. Instead of responding quickly, and getting the whole disagreement over with as quickly as possible, we drag the process out, treating our weaker enemies like spoiled toddlers who suffer no consequences for their actions. They respond by acting like toddlers. This leads to more violence, and it also leads to the devolution of these societies. When we add oil money, terrorism as a tactic in global politics and Wahhabi hate literature to that, we have a disaster. Look at the film of that preacher in Gaza, talking about drowning people in spit. A society can't devolve much beyond that point.
well thanks for the responce sophia. yes I am sure that reliegons are peaceful in their core, and thanks for the explanation. moreover archeologist's believe that the wars didnt happen (Jericho) and question the old testament dates of the wars..
thanx again .
Mary, let it be clear that in the end its opinons and I cant force anything on you except with facts. so keep marketing that saudia is a terrorist hub, nothing new before they used to think that saudia is a desert and people ride camels, and now they think its a terrorist hub.... so no difference between the two ways of thinking.
so if you have facts then we can talk in a better way. you make me remember daniel pipes.... he always talks about onething ....then directly switching to bashing saudia arabia without reason .
and regarding the precher in gaza he is from gaza and he has been bombbardded, so what do you expect from him.... go ask any israelian if he was attacked by hamas(fireworks) about hamas and compare his responce to the preacher responce.
Terrorist loving, terrorist funding, terrorist preaching saudi arabia is Ground Zero of Islamofascism.
wahabbist doctrine is being exported all over the World thanks to funding by saudi arabia.
- Is saudi arabia fighting al qada?
- Is saudi arabia helping the US track down al qada?
- Is saudi arabia publicly sending troops to help the US smash al qada?
No.
No.
No.
The 9/11 truthers and their fellow morons in the islamofascist World claim that the arab men who have been identified as the 9/11 hijackers are still alive.
Are they?
Is mohammed atta or any of the others on al jazerra to show the world they are alive?
No.
Saudi arabian supported Islamofascism is the greatest threat facing the World since the defeat of the nazi demon of WW2.
so keep marketing that saudia is a terrorist hub, nothing new
marketing? you are Saudi, aren't you..
regarding the precher in gaza he is from gaza and he has been bombbardded, so what do you expect from him.... go ask any israelian if he was attacked by hamas(fireworks) about hamas and compare his responce to the preacher responce
I've talked to a lot of Israelis, and even those who are under constant threat from Palestinian violence don't say things like that. They don't pass out candies to celebrate the murder of children, either.
Most cultures that have suffered from constant Islamist violence do not react the way the preacher in Gaza did. There is no culture that celebrates death in the same way - nor is there any culture that uses appealing animal characters to teach children (through a television show) to be martyrs. Palestinian culture is unique.
"palestinians" tell us they crave death while non-muslims crave life.
What more does anyone need to conclude that "palestinianism" IS a Death Cult?
it's unfortunate that this had to happen. anti racist blogs are really important in spreading the word against racism and showing that people are prepared to fight for their rights. This active protesting can also be seen in the Battle of Cable Street. Here's a link to an amazing video which explains the story behind east end londoners standing up against a fascist organisation and the police.
http://current.com/news/92353445_the-real-battle-of-cable-street.htm