Thursday, January 22, 2009
The incredible shifting death-toll -- and how is one to classify a "civilian" when a "uniform" consists of an AK-47 and a t-shirt?
...Palestinian civilians, meanwhile, have accused Hamas of forcing them to stay in homes from which gunmen shot at Israeli soldiers during the recent hostilities in Gaza, the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera reported Thursday.
The Italian paper also quoted a doctor at Gaza City's Shifa Hospital as disputing the number of Palestinians said to have been killed in the campaign.
"It's possible that the death toll in Gaza was 500 or 600 at the most, mainly youths aged 17 to 23 who were enlisted by Hamas - who sent them to their deaths," he said...
...The Gaza doctor was further quoted as saying: "Perhaps it is like Jenin in 2002. At the beginning they spoke about 1,500 dead, and at the end it turned out to be only 54 - of whom 45 were militants."
He was referring to the Israel Defense Forces battle with Palestinian militants in the West Bank town that took place during Operation Defensive Shield at the height of the second intifada.
And then there's this:
...Brig. Gen. Eyal Eisenberg said the civilians were sent by Hamas to transfer weapons to gunmen during the offensive. He also accused the Islamist militant group of booby-trapping many of the civilians' homes.
"Entire families in Gaza lived on top of a barrel of explosives for months without knowing," Eisenberg said...
At Ynet:
...A Tal al-Hawa resident told the newspaper's reporter, "Armed Hamas men sought out a good position for provoking the Israelis. There were mostly teenagers, aged 16 or 17, and armed. They couldn't do a thing against a tank or a jet. They knew they are much weaker, but they fired at our houses so that they could blame Israel for war crimes."
The reporter for the Italian newspaper also quoted reporters in the Strip who told of Hamas' exaggerated figures, "We have already said to Hamas commanders -- why do you insist on inflating the number of victims?"...
In JPost:
...Cremonesi interviewed Gazans who echoed Israel's insistence of how Hamas gunmen used civilians as human shields. One Gazan recalled civilians in Gaza shouting at Hamas and Islamic Jihad men, "Go away, go away from here! Do you want the Israelis to kill us all? Do you want our children to die under their bombs? Take your guns and missiles with you."
"Traitors, collaborators with Israel, spies of Fatah, cowards! The soldiers of the holy war will punish you. And in any case you will all die, like us. Fighting the Zionist Jews we are all destined for paradise. Do you not wish to die with us?" the religious fanatics of Hamas reportedly responded.
Other Palestinians told Cremonesi of Hamas operatives donning paramedic uniforms and commandeering ambulances. A woman identified as Um Abdullah, 48, spoke of Hamas using UN buildings as launch pads for rockets.
Cremonesi reported that he had difficultly gathering evidence as the local population was terrified of Hamas.
Hitler Jungend. Shades of Downfall.
Also see the Augean Stables: Jenin Redux: Casualty Figures Reconsidered and Stephanie Gutmann: Can We Trust the Casualty Numbers? Probably not, if they come from Hamas.
Update: Just to emphasize, the IDF is standing by an overall casualty number of about 1300, a majority being Hamas fighters.
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The following piece appeared originally in Maariv Hebrew here. Many thanks to Centrist for the exclusive translation. Lorenzo Cremonesi was the Italian journalist who ventured to Gaza during the war, made something of a pest of himself with the IDF,... Read More
Butbthe original snumbers will be trumpeted and expanded(likely).What i find frustrating is continued use of sources after they've been proven fraudulent.