Monday, October 5, 2009
So says the JPost. How will they pull this one off?
...John Ging, UNRWA's director of operations in the Strip, said any human rights course would be incomplete without a discussion of the Holocaust.
"No human-rights curriculum is complete without the inclusion of the facts of the Holocaust, and its lessons," Ging told Britain's The Independent. He said he was "confident and determined" the Holocaust would be included in the new curriculum. But it will only be a part of the lessons, which will touch on genocide in Rwanda, the apartheid regime in South Africa, ethnic cleansing in the Balkans and the "Nakba," or Palestinian "day of catastrophe."...
Of course! Using the Holocaust to perpetuate a sense of Arab grievance. Perfect.
Worry not, Gaza, I have absolute faith in John Ging and UNRWA's ability to absolutely pinch the Jewish particularity, the deep content, the historical significance, the moral weight and the cosmic significance out of the Holocaust like a duck going through a French press.
Alternatively, Israel could teach exactly the same curriculum and the Israelis could then be the aggrieved party by having to listen to the history of the Nakba. Sadly, neither of the two sides has much interest in confronting the truth of each other's history, comfy as they each are in their own martyrology.
There you go again, making equivalencies between something called the "nakba" and the Holocaust.
Not just wrong, evil.
I agree.
It's one thing for people to learn about history and to understand that all of us have suffered and that many peoples have experienced catastrophes of various sorts.
However, becoming refugees in a war isn't the same thing as losing 1/3 of your people in a deliberate, industrialized extermination. It just is not on the same level and that's one of the huge problems with the Gaza = Warsaw Ghetto equivalence.
Tne "naqba" also resulted from a war designed to exterminate the Jews in Israel so there's a double irony, David, and the participation of active and past Nazis in the first war against Israel - and subsequently - is a matter of history also.
When ALL of this history is taught in the Arab world and most particularly to the Palestinians, including the history of the al Husseini clan, then maybe we'll get somewhere with the so-called peace process.
As it happens President Obama was more or less obliged to assert the fact of the Shoah in his Cairo speech for the simple reason that so many people in the Middle East just don't believe it occurred and others were or are Nazi sympathizers.
First off, UNRWA will not teach the Shoah. They say they will but just as their Palestinian textbooks are written by Hamas and call the Protocols of the Elders of Zion the third most holy book in Judaism, they are simply lying.
I wish paleSWINE and all islamofascists and their apologists continued and ETERNAL NAKBA/NAQBA.
It must be doubly galling when the "sons of pigs and monkeys" defeat the sons of the terrorist prophet muhammed.
Ging compares the Holocaust to the Nakba. It would make more sense to compare the Nakba to the persecution and dispossession of Jews from Arab lands, that occurred from the 1940's to the 1960's.
Yes David puts an equals sign between holocaust and nakbar.
What he is saying is that the Israelis set up factories to exterminate the Arabs in their midst in 1948 and made the trains run on time to deliver the material for cost effective processing (corporate executives were called upon for their managerial skills) with each
partperson numbered with a tattoo for perfect assembly as they passed through the different stages, first gassing and then onto ovens and finally dispersal of the fertilizer to greenPolandGalil's fields forever.By products from the process were used shoes, eyeglasses and protheses which were sent to poor humans, and gold from the teeth used to buttress Swiss bank holdings for Husseini and co.
As it happens President Obama was more or less obliged to assert the fact of the Shoah in his Cairo speech for the simple reason that so many people in the Middle East just don't believe it occurred
and he left out the previous three thousand years which only reinforces the Arabs denial of Jewish connection to the land and Jerusalem.
By the way, the "Palestinians" have been used and are being used as cannon fodder in the Arab's war against the Jews and until such time as the Arab League (read up on Anthony Eden and his politics to better understand this) decides otherwise there will not be peace.
And every time that the Palestinians get beaten there comes the West with loads of dollars and euros to bolster thenm for the next bash.
Even so decades of indoctrination won't disappear overnight.
About those previous three thousand (plus) years - good point.
It's unfortunate that Jewish history seems to have come down to the Shoah, as though the Nazis define us.
That not only distorts the meaning and raison d'etre of modern Israel but has substituted Nazi history for Jewish history.
And, unfortunately both our offshoots - Christianity and Islam - to some degree depend on denying Jewish philosophy and we are definitely second class at best, damned at worst, and people are underestimating these religious points of view in discussions about the Arab/Israeli conflict.
I don't think we are going to really get anywhere in the Middle East until this is openly acknowledged and discussed.
I have a word for MR.ben...
Comparing the naqba to the holcaust.
to you its uncomparable....and thats true. but to me also its not comparable...because 1 dead from the palestenians is more precious han 300 dead from he jews. its a personal feeling of grief that you cant "force"others to feel sorry for you.
thats all philosyphical. but whats no philosphycal is:
death can be forgotten, and what cant be forgotten is the lands wich will always be a reminder to arabs ......without the need of musems or books printed .
2; dude.....jews bieng persecuted in arab lands.......is much less than arabs bieng persecuted in their lands by foreighners....I hope u understand. so dont compare jews bieng perscuted in europe to arabs bieng perscuted in their lands.
know the beautifull part about all of this is that history repeats itself!
so I hope the unrwa all the luck in their cirriculem venture and hope that when taching the holocaust which is a very terribale even to the jews ....to add the holocaust industry book to the cirriculem even as a summer reading.
arabian, you are a failure from a culture of failure.
Did you hear the news that an Israeli, an Israeli WOMAN won a Nobel Prize in chemistry?
6 million Israelis, 12 million Jews.
Out of a population of 1,400 million Muslims, how many Nobel Prizes did Arabs/Muslims win so far?
When the Nobel Prize committee gives an award for hijacking, suicide bombing, honor killing, rape, murder, asslifting, THEN you will be proud.
Meanwhile you'll be seething with the rest of the Arab street.
Happy Nakba arabian! And may you have many, many, many more!
oh good. i wish they announce this in arab news media with the name o the boat she came with to palestian. dude....thanks god this is our lands and lands of ou ancestores and when we develope and our people achieve a noble it wont be on the expence of any one.
so.....although its a good news.....but when its put in the contest of confronting the arab world, as you and many israelians do.....
then the holcaust and noble is your problem....good for her.
as long as the noble or holcaust are harming the arabs (middle east and arabs are the same by the way bwahahahah).... then its not uor problem.
use this noble to beg money from america and europe because your are beggers for 200 years!
and as of terroists ou try to connect them to us...I am agaisnt terrorists.
but lets face it. terrorists dragged the nose of the largest country in the world in the mud of afghanstan.
and by the way.....many holcaust to your likes....why didnt your family perish! where you in india bwahahha
because you always say if india is bombed.
arabian failure,
You come from a culture that was once great, but has degenerated into a culture of theft, murder, jealousy, misogyny, slavery.
Your culture once built great works.
Now your culture only knows how to DESTROY great works.
The West and the East have surpassed your culture. You are of the past. All your great works are stone, are dust, are dead, are no more.
If arabia was populated by monkeys, it would be just as successful and dependent on outside help. You need foreigners to teach you, to do the work you are unable to master.
The only difference between you and monkeys is that monkeys are cuter.
you know why you stumbeld and use insults.
because you used the noble prize to insult arabs and dehumanize them. any knowledge that doesnt leads to the fear of god and dealing in justice with people is an empty knowledge.
so is this th way you use the holcaust? and nobl prize winner.......instead of reflecting on the true core of the holcaust and nobl prize you use them as propoganda to hehumanize palestenians and arabs.
I wont say shame on you......but its clear the tricks and embazzlment ways that are used by you......then you will say why arabs deny the holcaust ..... (which i believe accured
know go to sleep instead of getting fired from work and dont worry we arabs have alot of problems but we dont beg from the world anything.
and thanx to god in the days of hardship god saved us with oil to get people to work for us! you didnt embarase me.
its the same reason your in america....$$$
arabian failure,
You cry that you are dehumanized? LOL! What a hypocrite!
It is your jealous culture of failure which says Jews are sons of pigs and monkeys.
Your murderous culture of failure which says Jews are not human, but animals.
What is more dehumanizing than that?
But the real NAKBA to your lazy culture of failure, is that the very people you despise, succeed, thrive, create WITHOUT the natural resources your backward cultures happen to be located.
Israel has done more WITH begging than 1,400 million muslims have done WITHOUT begging and WITH OPEC income.
Your thinking that because infidels work for artificial arabians, doing the work your culture is incapable of doing, puts you in a higher position is like an animal in a zoo thinking it is King because humans have to feed and clean it.
Go get an infidel to help you write your next post.