Young supporters of the Islamic Jihad movement march during a rally in Gaza City, 10 March 2010, showing solidarity for the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem
These are the people Israel wants to make peace with - Kids raised to hate anybody who isn't part of Islam. Kids who go to school and learn how to make bombs in their kitchen. Kids who are brainwashed that killing Jews and Christians is the most important thing in their life.
Good luck with that peace...
Don't forget to thank Obama.
I always find it interesting when photos like these are promoted by pro-Israel commentators as 'the face of the Palestinians' or 'the face of Islam'. While it certainly is disturbing, it's hard to say that this represents the majority of Palestinian people. It also overlooks the ways that 'we' do just the same thing - does anyone in America say boo when children are dressed up as soldiers and warriors?
I also find it telling that Dan believes this "is nothing less than deep psychological abuse of children, at the very least". Militarization of children IS abuse, to be sure, but this happens just as much in the United States and Israel as it does in the occupied territories. It also overlooks the very real, very harmful effects of war on children - for instance, the 20+% of Gazan children now suffering from PTSD from Operation Cast Lead.
Finally, isn't the more disturbing reality that Americans and Israelis don't have to teach their children to hate? (Some) Palestinians teach their children that the West is evil, that Jews are wicked etc., and a very very few of them go onto commit acts of terrorism. Americans and Israelis teach their children the precepts of democracy, peace and equality, and these children cheer on military machines that kill untold millions. It would appear to me that, while the second is cosmetically more attractive, is in fact vastly more hateful.
Rubbish. The notion that such militarism, hatred and preparation for war is the norm or promoted by the mainstream in America or Israel is ridiculous. Yes, you may find a few crazy survivalist camps in Montana or Wyoming—or jihadi compounds in Virginia and New York, full of Prislam converts—where that culture is the norm, but not elsewhere.
The question is not what's in the hearts of the presumptive silent majority—silent because they know they take their lives in their hands by speaking out against the corrupt thugs of Fatah and Hamas who are their rulers. It's what are the norms and standards of the government-controlled schools and media. Nappy challenges you to find anything comparable in the public schools in the US or on CNN, MSNBC, Fox, PBS, NPR, NY Times, WaPo, and the rest.
American and Israeli kids are not systematically taught to hate. The children in the Palestininan areas in Gaza, Judea and Samaria are. There's a very stark difference. Have you ever had kids in the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts here? Have you watched what military training that Palestinian Arab kids get in their summer camps?
Remember too that the first undertaking by the POL when the father of modern terrorism signed the Oslo Accords on the White House lawn was to stop the culture of hatred and incitement and prepare for peace.
And what about all the PTSD of the kids in Sderot who for years had been living with rocket attacks and 15-second alarms for taking cover in bomb shelters?
Americans in particular, if anything, are some of the most laid-back, open people in the world - this is especially true of the young who are willing to try anything.
I honestly don't know where you come up with this stuff Mr. or Ms. Richman.
Also if you study the Israeli art scene in particular you'll see great tolerance and openness there too.
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Poor kids. They appear to be miserable, angry, terrified, while the mothers whose faces are unveiled are smiling. What is the meaning of these smiles?
Where is the UN's concern for the children of Gaza in this story? This is nothing less than deep psychological abuse of children, at the very least.
Great education!
These are the people Israel wants to make peace with - Kids raised to hate anybody who isn't part of Islam. Kids who go to school and learn how to make bombs in their kitchen. Kids who are brainwashed that killing Jews and Christians is the most important thing in their life.
Good luck with that peace...
Don't forget to thank Obama.
Enculturation, from pre-school forward and throughout social, cultural and indeed institutional life. How lovely.
I always find it interesting when photos like these are promoted by pro-Israel commentators as 'the face of the Palestinians' or 'the face of Islam'. While it certainly is disturbing, it's hard to say that this represents the majority of Palestinian people. It also overlooks the ways that 'we' do just the same thing - does anyone in America say boo when children are dressed up as soldiers and warriors?
I also find it telling that Dan believes this "is nothing less than deep psychological abuse of children, at the very least". Militarization of children IS abuse, to be sure, but this happens just as much in the United States and Israel as it does in the occupied territories. It also overlooks the very real, very harmful effects of war on children - for instance, the 20+% of Gazan children now suffering from PTSD from Operation Cast Lead.
Finally, isn't the more disturbing reality that Americans and Israelis don't have to teach their children to hate? (Some) Palestinians teach their children that the West is evil, that Jews are wicked etc., and a very very few of them go onto commit acts of terrorism. Americans and Israelis teach their children the precepts of democracy, peace and equality, and these children cheer on military machines that kill untold millions. It would appear to me that, while the second is cosmetically more attractive, is in fact vastly more hateful.
Rubbish. The notion that such militarism, hatred and preparation for war is the norm or promoted by the mainstream in America or Israel is ridiculous. Yes, you may find a few crazy survivalist camps in Montana or Wyoming—or jihadi compounds in Virginia and New York, full of Prislam converts—where that culture is the norm, but not elsewhere.
The question is not what's in the hearts of the presumptive silent majority—silent because they know they take their lives in their hands by speaking out against the corrupt thugs of Fatah and Hamas who are their rulers. It's what are the norms and standards of the government-controlled schools and media. Nappy challenges you to find anything comparable in the public schools in the US or on CNN, MSNBC, Fox, PBS, NPR, NY Times, WaPo, and the rest.
American and Israeli kids are not systematically taught to hate. The children in the Palestininan areas in Gaza, Judea and Samaria are. There's a very stark difference. Have you ever had kids in the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts here? Have you watched what military training that Palestinian Arab kids get in their summer camps?
Remember too that the first undertaking by the POL when the father of modern terrorism signed the Oslo Accords on the White House lawn was to stop the culture of hatred and incitement and prepare for peace.
And what about all the PTSD of the kids in Sderot who for years had been living with rocket attacks and 15-second alarms for taking cover in bomb shelters?
Amen.
Americans in particular, if anything, are some of the most laid-back, open people in the world - this is especially true of the young who are willing to try anything.
I honestly don't know where you come up with this stuff Mr. or Ms. Richman.
Also if you study the Israeli art scene in particular you'll see great tolerance and openness there too.