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Friday, February 25, 2005

Sometimes it's easy. Carnegie Mellon is wrestling over the fact that a student group invited New Black Panther Party leader, Malik Shabazz to come speak:

Hate at Carnegie Mellon

An appearance by Malik Shabazz at Carnegie Mellon University last week has infuriated Jewish students, who say he not only devoted a university lecture to attacking them, but broke university rules and asked that Jewish students identify themselves as Jews before a hostile audience.

A columnist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, who managed to stay at the appearance when many other journalists were forced to leave, wrote: "Shabazz travels with a retinue of young men and women in jackboots, arm patches and berets. One wandered about with a nightstick. Another snapped photos of white people in the audience.... Try to imagine Farrakhan in Nuremberg."

Shabazz could not be reached for comment Monday. Nor could members of the black student group that organized the appearance. Carnegie Mellon officials said that they tried to persuade the students not to invite Shabazz, who has been criticized as an anti-Semite not only by Jewish organizations but by groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center. But the university decided that its commitment to free expression meant that the students were given the final say.

Michael C. Murphy, dean of student affairs, said in an interview Monday that the "tenor of hurtfulness and hatefulness" by Shabazz had upset many students at the university. Murphy was preparing for a town meeting to discuss student reactions, and for many private meetings with students and others who are concerned.

"This was hate," said Aaron Weil, executive director of the Hillel Jewish University Center of Pittsburgh. "At one point, he asked all the Jews in the room to raise their hands and say who is a Jew and then he asked who is a Zionist and the people with him told these students, 'I'm watching you.' One of our students was in tears."

Weil stressed that Hillel had not asked that the speech be banned, or tried to disrupt the appearance. But he said that Jewish students feel threatened by the fact that Carnegie Mellon let Shabazz and his entourage violate university rules about weapons during an appearance in which he repeatedly criticized Jews. Among other things, Shabazz suggested that Jewish people aren't really Jewish.

In terms of violations, Weil noted that people were searched for weapons going into the lecture. But members of Shabazz's group had nightsticks visible during the appearance. Murphy, the Carnegie Mellon dean, acknowledged that university rules bar private individuals from bringing nightsticks to campus events. He said that he knew of only one nightstick that was present, and that campus police officers made a "discretionary judgment" not to remove it. Murphy added that the officers "kept a close eye" on the person with the nightstick and that it was never used to threaten anyone...

...Murphy said that when he discussed the Shabazz speech with the students who planned it, they said that they had asked Shabazz to talk about the importance of education and the responsibilities of black students, not about his views on Jewish people. He said that the students "believed" Shabazz would "give a different speech than the one he gave."...

I think that's a little like asking a Nazi to come speak about train scheduling, "But lay off the Jew thing."

[Update: For more specifics of the overt anti-Semitism in Shabazz's presentation, here is the Pitsburgh Post-Gazette column. (via CampusJ)]

Now the university is having to deal with the controversy over where the funding came from to pay for his talk.

Paying for Shabazz

As anger grew at Carnegie Mellon University over a speech by Malik Shabazz last week, there was a constant refrain from university officials: No university funds were used.

Students report that they were told this again and again. Reporters were told this repeatedly. The university let a student group host the speaker -- who used his appearance to attack Jews -- out of a commitment to free speech, but university officials said it would never have helped bring him to campus.

Except maybe it did.

Students heard rumors that a university research center had paid for part of Shabazz's appearance, and sent an e-mail message to the head of the Center for African-American Urban Studies and the Economy (CAUSE) to ask if it had supported the Shabazz visit. Joe Trotter, director of the center and chairman of the history department at Carnegie Mellon, wrote back that CAUSE had "contributed" to the visit, but that the amount was "quite small."...

Sounds like the people who approved the funds are a bit embarrassed now, which is a good thing. Let's face it, the hate emanating from guys like Shabbazz is easy to see when you're faced with it.

Jared L. Cohon, president of Carnegie Mellon, sent a letter Tuesday to all students and faculty members about the controversy. He quoted from the university's policy on controversial speakers: "When so-called controversial speakers are invited to the campus by a recognized campus organization, they speak not because they have a right to be heard but because the students have a right to hear. It is the students' right to hear that the university must defend if it is to serve its high function in society."

I actually think that's fair enough. So let's leave that issue now and look at an example of a problem that's not so easy to see at first glance.

A few weeks ago I attended a talk given by Jihad Watch's Robert Spencer on some of the issues surrounding the new Boston Mosque. I wrote about it here. There was one gentleman there representing the Mosque that stood out somewhat. Here's what I wrote about him:

The fireworks started simultaneous with the questions and answers. Some, of course, were pretty standard stuff - regular questions, regular answers. The one identifiably Muslim gentleman who stood up was just that - a gentleman. He was impeccably polite, although he took issue with what Spencer was saying, insisting that what he was hearing did not describe the Islam he had been trained in and he suffered form the same malady that the others who stood up to protest - he was really there to make some statements, not ask questions, and didn't want to relinquish the floor. But, it should be emphasized, he had a mild case of the problem.

He's was exceedingly polite, well-dressed, soft-spoken. Introduced himself as "Just a simple country-boy..." The kind of person who presents himself in a way that can start to assure you that really, all your concerns are over-blown.

So I was interested when someone else who had been at the talk emailed me a link to the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, and there's our friend on the far right in the banner picture:

(If you go to the site you may not see it the first time. The banners rotate, so just refresh.)

Now for those not familiar, the WRMEA is a publication put together predominantly by ex-State Department Arabists - the type you read about who went to the Middle East, "went native," retired and returned to the US representing the countries they used to be posted to rather than their home in the USA. It's founder, Andrew Killgore is a former Ambassador to Qatar. He's a pip. I saw him some years ago on an interview show arguing, IIRC, that Saudi women are perfectly content with their lot, and that the Saudis are really our very good friends and we shouldn't be worried about them at all (Guess who he thinks is the real problem? No prize for the answer.)

Yes, the Washington Report is a Saudi propaganda-house. Now, anyone can take anyone else's picture and post it on the internet, but still, it does make one wonder. Why would our friend be appearing on such a web page? Who is this "simple country Muslim?"

Turns out our friend's name is one, Mahdi Bray.

Turns out, Mahdi Bray's been a political activist for some time. See here.

According to Steven Emerson’s book American Jihad, Bray wasn't always so circumspect in how he presented himself:

On December 22, 2000, MPAC's Mahdi Bray organized a rally in Lafayette Park outside the White House to celebrate a "Worldwide Day for Jerusalem." In Arabic, the crowd responsively chanted with the emcee, "Khaybar, Khaybar oh Jews, the Army of Muhammad is coming for you!" Posters calling for "Death to Israel" and equating the Star of David with the Nazi swastika were openly displayed and anti-Semitic literature calling for the destruction of the Jews and Israel was distributed. Members of the crowd burned the Israeli flag while marching from the White House to the State Department.

Bray spoke at this rally, along with Imam Mohammed al-Asi, former director of the Islamic Education Center in Potomac, Maryland, who exhorted the crowd to violence in the name of Islam. Al-Asi said, "Now, all our khatibs (speakers), our imams, our public speakers, should be concentrating on militarizing the Muslim public. This is not a time to make a speaking issue out of this ... Muslims have to familiarize themselves with every means possible ... Rhetoric is not going to liberate Al Quds and Al Aqsa. Only carrying arms will do this task. And it's not going to be someone else who is going to carry arms for you and for me. It is you and me who are going to have to carry these arms."

That starts to paint a different picture from the one I experienced, doesn't it?

Here's Robert Spencer in his report, The Muslim Public Affairs Council's War on Steve Emerson:

...Of course, when the MPAC report charges that “Emerson’s lack of precision leads him to conflate legitimate organizations that can help America and secure the homeland with others that are neither genuinely American nor transparent,” it becomes clear why MPAC is in such a froth about Emerson: because of what he knows about MPAC itself. In American Jihad, Emerson notes that when Abdurrahman Alamoudi of the American Muslim Council, who is now serving a 23-year prison sentence for a terrorism financing conviction, encouraged the Muslim crowd at an October 2000 rally cosponsored by MPAC to declare their support of the jihad terror groups Hamas and Hizballah, “MPAC’s Political Advisor, Mahdi Bray, stood directly behind Alamoudi and was seen jubilantly exclaiming his support for these two deadly terrorist organizations.” This was just three weeks after Bray “coordinated and led a rally where approximately 2,000 people congregated in front of the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C.” Emerson reports that “at one point during the rally, Mahdi Bray played the tambourine as one of the speakers sang, while the crowd repeated: ‘Al-Aqsa [Mosque] is calling us, let’s all go into jihad, and throw stones at the face of the Jews [sic].’”[18]...

A different picture, indeed!

And now, of course, Bray's Muslim American Society is agitating for the release of Ahmed Omar Abu Ali who was just indicted for plotting to assassinate the President:

More than 100 supporters of Abu Ali crowded the courtroom Tuesday and laughed when the charge was read aloud alleging that he conspired to assassinate Bush...

...Ahmed Abu-Ali’s family and MAS Freedom Foundation have been informed by the United States government that Abu-Ali has returned to the U.S. and will appear Tuesday, February 22, 2005 before a magistrate at the Eastern District 4th Circuit Federal Courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia at 9:00 AM.

The Freedom Foundation will post any new developments concerning Abu-Ali on its website immediately.

MAS FREEDOM FOUNDATION URGES EVERYONE TO ATTEND THE ARRAINGMENT.

“We’re deeply grateful to the Almighty for the return of Abu-Ali the United States of America,” said Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation Executive Director Mahdi Bray. “However, I am still greatly troubled and concerned about the manner in which our government has dealt with Abu Ali and his family.

”Nothing short of his release and return to his family is acceptable to us," stated Bray.

Abu Ali, btw, was educated at the Saudi funded and founded Islamic Saudi Academy (ISA) of Alexandria, Virginia. Tenuous, but yes, another Saudi connection, but when you're talking about politically active Islam, a Saudi connection is rarely more than a degree of separation away.

So who is the real Mahdi Bray? A picture does begin to form, and it's not much like the one I saw at Robert Spencer's talk a few weeks back. Now, let's be fair and say that maybe the old picture is really the more accurate one of the two. Of course I don't know for sure, but the evidence doesn't look good. Before the internet, there would have been no way to put this mosaic together. Sadly, even with the internet, most folks won't. The desire to think the best of others no matter the evidence is too strong. At least now there's a chance to do so. Not everyone is as consistently obvious as Malik Shabazz, and in many ways, that represents a much bigger problem.

6 Comments

Sol, Does Robert know that's who was at his talk? He's got a couple of write-ups about Bray at jihadwatch.org.
Just a simple country boy from North Carolina, indeed.

Yeah, I believe he knows.

Excellent research. This is what we should be reading in our daily newspapers. Anyone who reads outside the MSM should be frightened and angry at the sheer ignorance that is being hoisted upon the American people. We truly are at war and thank goodness there are people like you, Robert Spencer, Daniel Pipes and many others who are "sounding the bell". Anyone who thinks "It can't happen again" or it can't happen here should think again.
Keep up the good work!

Eileen Wahl

I suspect it will shock you then, to see Saudis criticizing their culture for preventing women from having full rights?

You might be interested in reading this entry from my blog Crossroads Arabia.

There are a lot of things changing in the country that also aren't being picked up by the MSM.

Obviously, you tried to show that you are not bias and you did your research in an objective way. Reading between the lines shows that you are so bias and trying to argue with yourself in a false manner. I visited Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and many other countries in that area. I lived with the people and lived their problems. First of all, it is silly to call Arabs as anti-Semite because, historically and genetically proven, Arabs and original Jews share the same father, so they can't be against themselves. Secondly, blaming either Israel or the Palestinian people is a matter of ignorance. Both parties should be blamed and held accountable for their behavior. It is quite clear now that Israel is a big trouble maker. And yes, they can make their and others life easier, but they just enjoy being the victims as much as the Palestinians enjoy receiving financial aids from Europe and the US. If we will keep listening to people such as Robert Spencer and Daniel Pipes, who claim to "sound the bell", the world would be a complete mess. Remember the simplest base in Physics. Every action, which is a reaction itself for a previous action, has a reaction. So please try to deg deeper to see what cause the mess we live in now. And remember, terrorism didn't start with 9/11, you can look at the days when houses were burned and people were killed by KKK and other proudly Christians terrorists.

You should read this on the moderate muslim brotherhood. http://www.nixoncenter.org/publications/LeikenBrookeMB.pdf
reported in "Foreign Affairs" by repected scholars

you should also read what themayor of london says on qaradawi
http://www.london.gov.uk/view_press_release.jsp?releaseid=4744


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