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Sunday, November 5, 2006

Here's audio of Michael Graham riffing on "the real Grace Ross."  Emailer missed some at the beginning (not sure how much), and you can just hear him mention Ron Francis as it leads in.

Michael Graham audio

Jay has some thoughts on the DePetro firing flap:

...I've never liked the woman -- and not because of her figure or sexual preferences. She holds incredibly sophomoric lefty views that most of us shook off soon after college -- and yet we're all expected to treat her with pious kid gloves because she robotically spouts what pathetically passes for idealism...

He points to Adam's comment:

Yeah, no worse than calling the Margolis brothers a couple of short Jews. It's true, right?

It is true (I don't remember them being short, though), and no, it's no worse or better.  If DePetro had said that nothing would have happened, because he's not a hateful guy.  People would have laughed, or called the show and told him he's a jerk and he shouldn't say things like that.  On the point that I think Adam is trying to make -- that mocking Jews as Jews is more dangerous ground than mocking Gays as Gays...that's just the way it is.  The one is more socially acceptible than the other, even on that very station as Dan Kennedy points out.

I take it some folks don't like that difference, and would like making fun of gays to be in the same class of sin as scorning Jews in our culture, even to the point of hypersensitive posing to make the point.  OK, fine, see if you can shift peoples' attitudes on that.  But when you just arbitrarily decide that there's a new line that everyone's supposed to just know and when they step over it, you applaud their firing...that's what makes a lot of conservatives say that liberals are the most intolerant people you can ever meet -- they decide what everyone is supposed to think, and rather than using their own free speech to influence and convince, they shit-can your ass.

I wonder if anything will happen to Imus's Bernard McGuirk, who went into a rant at the live WTKK event last night naming a bunch of Jews and blaming "the dual-loyalty people" for the Iraq war he hates.

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Thanks for the thoughtful discussion on this. If I can clarify my post (sorry for not being clearer):

I wasn't trying to compare Jew-bashing and gay-bashing, but to show that even innocuous words can be used as insults when put in a particular context. Whether DePetro was trying to do that, I don't know (I admit: I never listened to him); my beef was with the way Hub Politics seemed to take extra delight in yelling "fat lesbian! fat lesbian!" just for the hell of it.

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