Wednesday, December 13, 2006
How many does the world really have?
The binational idea in the West is thus far from a success story. Now there are calls to realize this idea in the Middle East, where, as we all know, the refreshing winds of binationality are blowing. It is obvious that this idea represents explicit abandonment of the principle of two states for two peoples - a principle whose application requires two separate nation-states, one Jewish-Israel and the other Palestinian-Arab.
However, when it is finally becoming clear that some of those who for decades spoke of "two states for two peoples" are not actually willing to have two states for two countries in Eretz Israel, it is difficult not to wonder whether now, when they are speaking about binationalism, their true intention is indeed a binational state.
It's not, it's about one nation and back to dhimmitude.
There is some good news: Prodi: Preserve Israel's Jewish character, Annan hints refugees should not be given right of return to Israel
Funny that Jacobson mentions Cyprus. Lately I've been thinking that resolution in Cyprus points the way to a solution in for Israel and the Arabs. What finally brought some peace to Cyprus was separating the Christian Greek and the Muslim Turkish Cypriots.
It probably won't happen, but the idea of dividing the Palestine Mandate still makes a lot of sense. The Arabs already have the East Bank, some more than three quarters of the mandate territory. Why not insist that the Palestinian Arabs move to Jordan, the Arab zone?
Don't want to disrupt established villages and force people to move, then Lieberman's solution makes sense, but instead of swapping that land for Israeli land, Jordan should cede other Palestinian territory to Israel.
King Abdullah II of Trans-Jordan objects? Excuse me, but the Hashemite Husseinis were installed as Emirs by the Brits only recently, the same clan they made royalty in Riyadh and Baghdad as reward for assisting Lawrence in The Great War. It's not as if they ruled in their ancient, ancestral homeland as part of a longstanding Jordanian society.
In Dershowitz' "The Case for Peace" he writes about about an early 1970s debate he had with Chomsky. Noam brought up two success stories: Lebanon and Yugoslavia.
There are also many positive countries which have originally been many. I myself however prefer two-state solution cause there is so much hate between the parties. Im not taking any sides who is "right", I say both are "right" from their own perspective.
Some bi- or multinational countries goes so much back in history that no one even remembers that they once were members from many nationalities. Example Sweden was combined from three, Germany and Italy from tens of small kingdoms.
My country Finland is also bi-national in a way. We have this swedish speaking minority who has a very clear differences from normal finns. We sometimes have arguments with them but only in civilized manner, like in newspaper opinion texts erc.
My solution for you is simple. Withdraw from territories you occupied -67 and then build the wall. You will be safe and palestinians can do what ever they want to do but not harrash you. Occupation increases terrorism and illegal settlements are called "seads of hate" here in the west.
Antti:
If you think the solution is withdrawing to the "pre-1967" lands, then how do you account for the three successive wars of annihilation that occurred between 1948 and 1967, not to mention Hamas's clear repeated assertion that they will never recognize a Jewish state anywhere between the Jordan and the network of tunnels they've been building under Gaza ever since they took power?
I am also in a binational relationship. He is still living here but some problems are starting to rise.
I do beleive that the new Democratic Congress will pass an amnesty bill this year for the illegal’s and I feel they should add in the bill Uniting Families American Act. If they give amnesty, why not a law for us to sponsor our partners who are trying legally to get here.