As an expatriate that was both lived and worked in Muslim countries I can be confident in telling everyone that not only does Boston have a new safe harbor for present and future terrorists and the usual daily anti American and anti Jewish diatribes preached daily in the Mosque, but 4 new giant speakers that will broadcast daily prayers as loud as they can get away with

The tactics are quite simple and I have been a victim of them quite often and believe me when I say, anyone within eye shot of these speakers has officially given up his right of living in a peaceful environment and getting eight hours of sleep since the Muslims will purposely turn the volume up to reach into every non-Muslim house they can up to 7 times a day from. The public is in for a rude awakening when very soon as early as 3:30AM to 6:00AM they start hearing Allah Akbar spouted into their bedrooms or impromptu speeches from Middle Eastern Imams. Believe me when I say that these calls of prayer through loud speakers are not tradition but a 20th century marketing gimmick that’s intention is to bring any and all non-Muslims to their kneads or drive them nuts in the process.

Also, not only does the minaret represent the highest point (closest object to heaven/God) in the sky, throughout history, wherever Muslim have lived and ruled, it was been used as a symbol of having dominance over Christian Churches since Muslims outlaw anything higher than the Minaret wherever
They rule. A note Sufi theologian put it best when he wrote “they are not permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells…their houses may not be higher than the Muslim’s, no matter how low that is.”

My only suggestion at this point is to either accept the daily rants of the speakers into your homes while listening to the words Allah Akbar until you get sick or fight back in court since that is the only way you will stop them from even considering lowering the volume. Stage one was building the Mosque, stage two is blasting the speakers into our homes, stage three will be pushing all the Christians out of their neighborhoods and replacing them with Muslims etc… it’s only begun.

I believe that any mosque that is built with funds from Saudi Arabia should be BLOCKED as long as Saudi Arabia PROHIBITS the construction of churches, synagogues, temples in Saudi Arabia. There MUST be reciprocity. If not, block it.

This is the United States of America where we have the FREEDOM to practice any religion without interference from the political systems. Saudia Arabia is an Muslim country and is not free. This is vastly different from our country. The idea that the US would seek to block a Mosque is reprehensible. Appreciate what you have in this country, and allow all others the same FREEDOM you enjoy.

Annie, while your logic seems fair and constitutional legal, Islam isn’t a Religion that wants to be part of our country but to control our country and convert our legal system into Sharia Law. It’s like asking a thief to come into your house and let him take anything he wants; would you do that?

Please remember these words that most Muslims have memorized:
American laws will protect us.
Democrats and Leftist will support us.
UNO will legitimize us. (United Nations Organization)
CAIR will incubate us. (Council on American-Islamic Relations)
ACLU will empower us. (American Civil Liberties Union)
Western Universities will educate us.
Mosques will shelter us.
OPEC will finance us.
Hollywood will love us.
So when you wake up at 3:30am everyday 7 days a week with the call of prayer blasting “Allah Akbar” into your bedroom window, ask yourself is this what our founding fathers meant by Religious freedom because as far as the Muslims are concerned, if you are a non-Muslim, you are next to nothing. Trust me on this one Annie, after living/working in Muslim countries for 10 years, I can tell you American’s are in for a rude awakening.

David - I believe that our Founding Fathers wrote a premise that all religions are welcome and should not be shunned.

I also believe, as an American, that all people should be protected by our laws, not just those we like or agree with. Over the course of the past 231 years many new peoples and religions have entered this nation and many have met resistence, criticism, and concern. But they become a part of the fabric of our nation and contribute greatly to the richness of it.

I am sorry that you have such a narrow view of all Muslims, but I also have much experience living with and working with Muslims (from all parts of the world and in several parts of the world) and have a very different view. As an Christian American (born and bred here) I am married to a Muslim man (14 years now), am part of a Muslim family (that extends into France and Morocco), and have found them to be nothing less than gracious, kind, peaceful people who are accepting of other people who offer them the same respect. I take exception to your lumping one people into a "most" generalization. I challenge you to the exclusivity of most religions (both in their present, in their history, and in the messages they give) and apply that equally to all. And please, do you honestly believe the 4-5 Muslim Americans are here working covertly to overthrow our government in order to make us convert to Sharia Law?

This list of statements you say most Muslims have agreed to is interesting and something I have never heard of. But let me take a stab at a response to your criticism:

American laws will protect us. ~ as it should
Democrats and Leftist will support us. ~ and many others
UNO will legitimize us. (United Nations Organization) ~ legitimize who? all Muslims? all Muslim nations?
CAIR will incubate us. (Council on American-Islamic Relations) ~ they fight for rights, such an American ideal
ACLU will empower us. (American Civil Liberties Union) ~ and so they should when rights are violated
Western Universities will educate us.~ as they will any other person who is qualified
Mosques will shelter us. ~ as do all religious establishments
OPEC will finance us. ~ finance who? obviously you are thinking terrorism
Hollywood will love us. ~ what a joke, Hollywood has not made a movie with a positive Muslim take, ever

Please do not lump all Muslims together as Arabic or as terrorists; the three are not mutually related. There are Muslims from Arab and non-Arab states (a fact that seems to be lost on you). And the VAST MAJORITY of Muslims are not terrorists or terrorist-minded. Terrorists come from many religions, nations, and people.

Finally, no I would not want to be awoken to "Allah Akbar" at 3:30AM. I also would not want to be awoken to church bells, or church music at the same time. but that is why we have noise and disturbing the peace ordinances in place.

I think I could go on and on, but my lunch hour is now over and I must get back to my work. I wish for you the same I wish for everyone, peace and happiness. I believe you and I will not agree, and that is okay with me ~ another great thing about our country.

Very academic and well thought our response Annie. It appears we have more in common than I first thought. Like you, I also married a Muslim but it appears that’s were our shared experiences end. While living/working in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, India, and 12 others I won’t bore you with, I witnessed firsthand what Islam has done to the people, the justice system, and the fabric we call democratic freedom.
Like you, I have many Muslim friends, and family which are peace loving people but it is not these people that control Islam nor dictate it’s rules. How many people do you know that when marrying into Islam were not required to convert to Islam? Islam even has rules the way you should wash yourself. In every Muslim country I have spend considerable time in, every religion that tried to practice their beliefs were threaten, taxed excessively, or like many Muslim counties today, just outright murdered. Even in France and our street corners in cities like Michigan and New Work thousands of Muslims are demonstrating this very moment against everyone of our beliefs that made our nation great. While in a city called Tasik once I witnessed a mob of Muslims burning down a church while the other Muslim people just stood by and watched since according to the local people, it was too close to their Masjid.
Yes you are right, “over the course of the past 231 years many new peoples and religions have entered this nation” but none like Islam. Yes the Mormons had a hard time of it but their Imams didn’t peach killing Christians in their worship places like they do in Mosques around the world. Of the 200 different Mosques I have walked into and listened to the Imams speak, only a few didn’t either blame America for every one of their 14 hundred year old problems or call for the destruction of America and our democracy. Mind you, at the same time they are willing to take our money through organizations such as USAid and The World Bank.
Also, I believe my quote was 1 out of 4 not 4 out of 5 that believe suicide is justified in America. If that is the case Annie, that means a low figure would mean we have over 300 million Muslims worldwide that believe suicide is justifiable. In many parts of the world there are Muslim organizations that’s only purpose in life is to enlist suicide bombers to kill innocent people like you and me regardless of our faith. Please name me one Religion in the world that actually justifies killing non-Muslims except Islam? Even Muhammad bragged about killing Jews and ordered his followers to steal and kill in the name of Allah, how do you think he got rich? I don’t recall Jesus or any other so called prophet telling his followers to kill people in the name of God do you?
CAIR is an organization dedicated just to usurp our constitution and I think you already know that Annie. Most of the pervious executives are already in federal prison and they have been caught on tape numerous times advocating the over throw of our government and replacing it with Sharia Law. How can you argue against actual video footage of this organization calling for replacing our judicial system with Sharia Law?
Numerous Muslim organizations have already successfully lobbied the UN to make it illegal to slander Islam and already in numerous European nations you can be put in Jail for speaking bad about Islam or it’s prophet. Can you imagine a group of Christians asking for the same protection? Like in Saudi Arabia/Sudan etc… and numerous other Muslim run countries they would either lock you up or just kill you on the spot.
OPEC finances 8 out of 10 Mosques build in America and that is a simple fact that you can find anywhere. Fifteen of the 19 highjackers were Saudi’s and all 15 of them stayed at the King Faud Mosque in Los Angeles. We have so many Mosques hiding terrorist or under indictment the list is too long to list here. Please name me one other Religion that harbors terrorists or trains potential terrorist such as Islam does right here in America. Please research Islamberg and you will find these Muslim institutions popping up in numerous places in America; is this what you want for America.
Do you think it is right for our Universities and our state governments to subsidize the building of Muslim wash basins for Wudu while at the same time banning Christmas Music from our campuses. If you do, I am betting every person on this web site we disagree with you?
I believe our founding fathers would want to protect our freedom and the simple fact is freedom just doesn’t exist where Islam goes. Yes, we will always have freedom loving Muslims but the simple fact of the matter is Islam is a Religion that can’t exist next to other religions and it never has throughout is whole history.
Within years of Muhammad’s death, Abut Bakr launched the “Great Jihad.” The ensuing three decades witnessed Islamdom’s most spectacular expansion as MUSLIM armies subdued the entire Arabian Peninsula and conquered territories that had been in Greco-Roman possession since the reign of Alexander of Great. “Hellenism and Christianity were eliminated as major ethnic, religious, and cultural forces in the Near East, save in Asia Minor and Cyprus. Can’t any other Religion lay claim to murdering whole ethic groups just because they either wouldn’t convert, or pay the Jizya?
I leave you with a quote from a prominent Muslim Sufi theologian scholar. “Jews, Christians, and Malians must pay the Jizya [poll tax on non-Muslims]…on offering up the Jizya the dhimmi must hang his head while the official takes hold of his bread and hits the dhimmi on the protuberant bone beneath his ear….They [that being Christians and Jews] are not permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells… their houses may not be higher than the Muslim’s no matter how low that is.” It goes on for quite a while but you get the point. This 7th Religion still practices these beliefs today around the world and I for one don’t believe the Religion of Islam belongs, nor can it exist within our democratic society like all the other religions that have come to our country. Where Islam goes freedom flees. I treasure my freedom and can’t imagine ever again being woken up at 3:30am 7 days by a Mosque being force to listen to Allah Akbar over loud speakers again.

Peace be with you all.

I have read many many comments all over the website regarding the Minaret capping accusing the Islamic community of being terrorists, and disrespectful for flying the American flag the wrong way, etc etc. I have to say, Allah is in control, and on the Final Hour, will you be in for a surprise! As a Muslim convert for just about 10 months, I can tell you that once you actually know the people who form the community, there can be no association made between Muslims on a whole and terrorism. However, I will say no more in that regard because I firmly believe that I do not owe any of the disbelievers explanations just because I believe in the ONENESS of God and worshipping Him as much as possible. Oh, and I must say that as annoying as the sound of the church bell has been early on Sunday mornings during my life, it is something that society has learned to live with. The Muslim call to prayer is the same deal! InshaAllah, one day Islam will be the majority in this country (you ever actually take a look at real Islam, reading the Qur'an and Hadith, and wonder exactly why Islam is spreading so quickly in the Western world??) This is a sign of Allah, subhana wa ta'allah!

Well I couldn’t have put it better or more succinctly than Naomi just did. In one paragraph Naomi has told us that Islam’s interpretation of God is not only better than ours, but her God is going to damn everyone else to hell for not believing the way her Religion teaches her to believe. What is more fashionable than wearing the Burqa under the warm sunshine or believing that your value is only half that of a man but hey, if you’re a Muslim woman, that is exactly what you have to believe. Anyone who is bothered by the occasional sound in the distance of quiet bells but doesn’t mind Allah Akbar being broadcasted into your home five to seven days a day loud enough to drown out your TV turned up full blast certainly believes in other non-Muslims rights; don’t they?

I guess I’m just one of those dhimmis that would rather go to hell than live in a so called Muslim heaven under the spell of a Prophet that commands their believes to wage war on anyone that doesn’t follow Islam. I might also add that all the virgins are gone since either all the suicide bombers have taken them all or they have been killed by IEDs. Any Muslim that spouts the worlds “the religion of peace” is just kidding anyway. There is no doubt that Muhammad was a brilliant political and military genius and taught his followers well to think that Muslims are supposed to dominate other peoples until the one true faith reigns triumphant over the entire earth which is clearly what Naomi believes. You see, whereas Christ’s “Kingdom is not of this world,” the house of “Islam is to enjoy pre-eminence in both this world and the next.
However, I might point out that Islam is the fastest growing Religion only through birth and not through conversion and 100% of the growth of Islam in this country is through Immigration not conversion.

Yes, after studying the Qur’an in a Muslim country under Muslim tutelage and reading the “ahadith” a thousand times (please note the proper spelling for reading more than one Hadith) I am even more certain that Naomi speaks for many other Muslims when in her not so subtle way she has told us that we are all doomed for not believing in Islam’s version of God and of course, like every Muslim I’ve met so far, they are bound and determined to take over the world and start the 4th Caliphate. Heck, just ask the Sudanese Christians or what’s left of them after being taken over by Islam. They can tell you what it’s like under Islam’s rule. Of course if they open their mouths and say anything bad about Islam they will be Killed. But heck, Allah wills it and you can’t argue with Islam’s Allah.

Here is the partial ‘pillar’ that Naomi alluded to when she states the “oneness of God.” “Faith (iman) in the oneness of God and the finality of the prophethood of Muhammad (indicated by the declaration [the Shahadah] that, “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah”). However, least we not forget the 6th pillar of faith which is “jihad” that was the most important to Muhammad and which our beloved Muslim keep felling to mention.

No, Islam will never be the majority in America. Islam is incompatible with Democracy and even a two digit IQ person can see that. America is already waking up to the horrors Islam has perpetrated around the world for the past 14 hundred years and soon you will see Democratic minded people rear their heads and wake up to teachings of hatred and violence of Islam and Muhammad. Unless Islam manages to kill every Christian and Jew in this world (albeit they have done a good job so far) once America begins to understand and learn the theoretical and practical principles that underlie Islam’s modus operandi, “we will be able to make sense of the current state of the world and gauge what the future is likely to hold.” Clearly, Islam is the problem, NOT the answer.

At yesterday's Workmen's Circle event, I asked Jessica Maase about the timing and volume of calls to prayer from the minaret.

She said that there would be no public calls to prayer audible outside the mosque at all, and that they had to get a special 'entertainment permit' from the city for the topping-off ceremony.

That is good to know, thanks.

David, thanks very much for your comments. Yes, there's a world of difference between ordinary Muslims and Islamic leadership. And the Islamic leadeship in Boston is definitely bad news for us.

I saw Salma Kazmi, former ISB spokesman, interviewed on Emily Rooney's show a few years ago, and she was asked about if the ISB was going to broadcast the call to prayer. She said "We have no plans to do that, at this time." Wiggle words!

Naomi has the blind, happy certainty of someone in a cult. She must like having lots of rules. Reverts are the worst in this respect. People who are born into Islam are much more aware of the many downsides of this "faith," it's craving for power over everybody else. Islam means submission, indeed.

When Jessica Maase states that "no public calls to prayer audible outside the mosque at all" she is being disingenuous at best. This tactic of starting prayers at a low volume than slowly raising the volume until the sound of the Muslim prayers are even able to penetrate solid concrete has been used around the world since the late 1970’s, especially in Europe. Once the Muadhin’s have increased the volume under order from the clerics, and there is nothing the general public can do, the Imams will start spouting off impromptu Qur’an readings interlaced with hate filled readings against all non-Muslims over the loud speakers. But wait, there is even more, most people think it’s only 5 calls to prayer that they will soon be subjected to but you have another surprise lurking in your near future; the azhan.

The azhan is a ‘precall’ to inform others in specific words that the time for a prayer has begun. It begins by proclaiming the greatness of Allah, pointing to His existence and perfection. Yes that’s right, in the near future, as early as 3:30am, you can expect to be woken up to the sounds of Allahu Akbar over loud speakers. Hence you will soon be able to listen to Allahu Akbar over the local Mosque loud speakers and on CNN as you watch yet another video of a Muslim suicide bomber getting ready to blow of babies and other innocent victims.

Even in Muslim neighborhoods the residents have been deceived into believing that the newest Mosque built will respect their right to privacy and peaceful existence but unfortunately this is never the case and won’t be in this instance. If you think the occasional church bells on Sunday morning were bad you are in for a rude awakening in the near future. It won’t happen overnight but it will happen!

Do you have any evidence whatsoever for this? I'm pretty confident that Boston noise ordinances can be enforced, if necessary.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever for this? I'm pretty confident that Boston noise ordinances can be enforced, if necessary.
#13 Posted by: Ron Newman at June 15, 2007

Ron,

There is such a preponderance of evidence of even the smallest of Mosques over a short period of time turning the volume up so there prayers can be hear by everyone I wouldn’t know where to begin. Suffice to say, all you have to do is walk into any neighborhood that has a Mosque for more than 6 months during one of the 5 required daily calls to prayer and you will understand what I am talking about. Even in Egypt, of all places, the government is finally trying to take action against the abuse of Mosques blasting their speakers so loud since even the most ignorant Muslim just can’t take it anymore. In Muslim countries, it is not uncommon to hear at least 16 Mosques within ear shot going off at once. Believe me when I say that after working with Muslims for the past ten years, the tactic of deception has been learned by every male Muslim cleric before the age of 12.

Qur'an 5:41 "Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help. Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them."

I believe “Miss Kelly” said it best in her comment when she said “I saw Salma Kazmi, former ISB spokesman, interviewed on Emily Rooney's show a few years ago, and she was asked about if the ISB was going to broadcast the call to prayer. She said "We have no plans to do that, at this time." Wiggle words!”
However, just so you know, the usual tactics are:
1. Mosque built
2. Mosque invites everyone to the Mosque once and gives them the watered down version of Islam and everyone feels safe.
3. Mosque is given additional donations from the “King Faud Foundation” while Arab only Imams start preaching Wahhabism in Arab speaking only classes.
4. Volume is gradually turned up over a short period of time (anywhere from 3-6 months).
5. Residents complain but Mosque is represented by ACLU/CAIR/MSA, etc… and numerous other Muslim advocate groups call the people bringing the complaint racist and other slanderous remarks to get them to back off.
a. Many times they actually sue the people bringing the law suit against them similar to you what you witness in the “Flying Imams” case.
b. Another tactic is to donate large amounts of money to government officials running for office so government officials won’t pursue the matter.
There are actually quite a few more tactics but I won’t bore you with anymore details. Suffice to say, what use to be 100% Christian neighborhoods in Europe and in cities like Dearborn Michigan, are now 100% Muslim because the non-Muslims have been driven out of the neighborhoods by not only the near by Mosques, but Muslim gangs that start to appear after a while causing havoc on anyone that doesn’t let them have their way.
Ask yourself, are they building foot basins at your local airport/University yet for the Muslim Religious Wudu but outlawing even Christmas Music to be played at or near the local Mosque/University/Airport because it offends Muslims? If not now they will be soon. Just ask any of the few remaining Christians living in “The Islamic State of Michigan.” And they can tell you what is like living near a Mosque if they could hear you over the loud speakers.